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  No Speaka Da English? No Live In England!

  by Englishman in

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  2. friends

  should the uk toughen up on it's immigration policies?

  should immigrants be able to speak english?

  this is clipped from today's guardian:.

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  Utopian Reformist

  Although this discussion is about English immigration, I would appreciate an accomodation so I could inject my experience from across the Atlantic.

  I arrived in America in 1974. I came speaking italian and spanish. All of my life growing up in Philadelphia, a brief period in NYC and Boston taught me that the "land of the freedom" is NOT free.

  I can still hear the taunts and ridicule of other teens and adults who mocked our family with similar phrases like "speak-a da english-a". It was humiliating.

  However, my father would ask these "noble" great-great great grandsons of english-irish-scottish-welsh heritage, "how many native american languages do you speak?". Of course the answer was none.

  So, it was permissible to FORCE english and protestantism upon indigenous people without reciprocation. How typical of the comments from across the atlantic today.

  How many nations did the British colonize and subjugate and exploit? So, if the tide is reversing and England is now being filled with Africans, Arabs, Asians and others, I think it's absolutely GREAT!

  In the states, spanish is spreading like gangrene and I LOVE it. Watching the typical anglo-saxon americans in their suburbs becoming more and more integrated, no matter how uncomfortable is a good lesson for all. The "HAVES" of this world will not "HAVE" forever.

  The world is EVERYONE's oyster, grab a bowl, jump in, and it's human soup for all!
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  NUKES: THE ULTIMATE WEAPON OF TERROR

  by You Know in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  initially this post was a response to a question by a poster about the likelihood of an atomic weapon being detonated in the near future.

  in order to preserve this topic i have moved it to this forum.. __________________________________________________________________ .

  history is at a great turning point.

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  YOUKNOW:

  While a certain amount of caution is necessary in life, it is unhealthy to perpetuate a morbid fear of impending doom and apocalypse at every opportunity. Should the "perverbial" armageddon begin after reading this thread, what can anyone do?

  Only survivors would have the opportunity to learn whether the event was natural or man made. After gaining that knowledge, the inevitable responsibility, the greatest responsibility of all time returns to stare the survivor face-to-face, and that is LIFE!.

  Therefore, Double A has a valid point in avoiding the temptation to succumb to irrational fears and an improper use of the imagination. You know Robert (no pun intended), it would be a tragedy for you after 80-90 years of human life, to wonder before you close your eyes for the last time whether it had all been in vain. Imagine having devoted your entire life to a book written by ancient men knowing much less of the universe than we do today, and accepting their definition of past, present, future and faith, without ever having the experience of an eyewitness to corroborate even one page.

  THINK!
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  WARNING - THE WTBS CAN LOCATE YOU

  by Jim Dee in

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  2. friends

  guys and girls.

  the society have now instituted carnivore - their data tracking system installed into the uk bethel to track all apostate email and activity.

  the reason is the amount of "leaks" of confidential mail and facts.. they have tried and failed with legal blocking, so now they are plugging the leaks, these guys were brought into mill hill late last year after the leak of the june 1 letter.. their method is to use message boards and chat rooms for the "disaffected" and get them to go to other "society monitored" web sites.

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  To NYTeleDUNG:

  I am ignoring YOU in this thread. You hid like a coward from the last technical challenge, and besides we are having a very BASIC fundamental discussion which is still too advanced for you.

  Go back to your NetBEUI / NETBIOS world and keep synchronizing those PDC's and BDC's. Don't forget to set up your trusts!
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  WARNING - THE WTBS CAN LOCATE YOU

  by Jim Dee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  guys and girls.

  the society have now instituted carnivore - their data tracking system installed into the uk bethel to track all apostate email and activity.

  the reason is the amount of "leaks" of confidential mail and facts.. they have tried and failed with legal blocking, so now they are plugging the leaks, these guys were brought into mill hill late last year after the leak of the june 1 letter.. their method is to use message boards and chat rooms for the "disaffected" and get them to go to other "society monitored" web sites.

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  Thx REM.

  ICMP tells you alot. PING and TRACERT are basic, free and at least throw some numbers up on the screen for you to get started. Look at my first results (w/o modifying the TTL or size):
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  C:\>tracert 63.92.157.81

  Tracing route to 63.92.157.81 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 156.120.14.240
  2 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms 156.120.198.1
  3 28 ms 26 ms 28 ms 156.119.85.1
  4 * * * Request timed out.
  5 * * * Request timed out.
  6 * * * Request timed out.
  7 * * * Request timed out.
  8 * * * Request timed out.
  9 * * * Request timed out.
  10 * * * Request timed out.
  11 * * * Request timed out.
  12 * * * Request timed out.
  13 * * * Request timed out.
  14 * * * Request timed out.
  15 * * * Request timed out.
  16 * * * Request timed out.
  17 73 ms 72 ms 74 ms 63.92.157.81
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  Even with tools and results and log files, there is never a guarantee that someone has NOT altered the results. Log files are usually text files and can be monkeyed with, like IIS Server and many others.

  Almost everything in technology can be manipulated to some degree. That's what programming and scripting is all about. Making 1's and 0's do stuff.
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  WARNING - THE WTBS CAN LOCATE YOU

  by Jim Dee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  guys and girls.

  the society have now instituted carnivore - their data tracking system installed into the uk bethel to track all apostate email and activity.

  the reason is the amount of "leaks" of confidential mail and facts.. they have tried and failed with legal blocking, so now they are plugging the leaks, these guys were brought into mill hill late last year after the leak of the june 1 letter.. their method is to use message boards and chat rooms for the "disaffected" and get them to go to other "society monitored" web sites.

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  Just to add a few details to what SYN & Jourles have posted:

  We will assume most users are dialing-up or using a broadband connection via ethernet topology (NIC & CAT 5). MAC addresses (hard coded my NIC mfg) can be "spoofed" rendering average ethernet sniffers unable to determine to hardware node address.

  If your workstations or servers use FDDI adapters, then it is a moot point altogether.

  Also, it is NOT absolutely 100% necessary to reside on the same subnet to determine this information, it really depends on the sophistication of the tools in use.

  There are so many tools in this business now, it's getting redundant. The point is security is the user's responsibility. Don't take your ISP for granted. There are products out there that sample traffic between WAN links, so if someone HAS authority, and WANTS to capture your traffic, they CAN.

  Tunneling and virtual connections with good transport & session software make it possible. I have used ZENWORKS to remotely install Windows on PC's separated by WAN links, upon user login, using IP only and a special client. As long as a connection exists, and the connection is powered, you can get to that machine.

  The WTBS does not have or want this type of sophistication. They don't need it. They have something more powerful, the power of suggestion.
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  WARNING - THE WTBS CAN LOCATE YOU

  by Jim Dee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  guys and girls.

  the society have now instituted carnivore - their data tracking system installed into the uk bethel to track all apostate email and activity.

  the reason is the amount of "leaks" of confidential mail and facts.. they have tried and failed with legal blocking, so now they are plugging the leaks, these guys were brought into mill hill late last year after the leak of the june 1 letter.. their method is to use message boards and chat rooms for the "disaffected" and get them to go to other "society monitored" web sites.

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  OOOOOOOOOOH! I'm scared! Someone posts a web page with a threat and we are all supposed to be amazed, like it has never happened before?

  Give me a break. The IP address listed there is not registered to the WTBS domain. For the thousandth time (posted before by many others) here is the WTBS profile from NETSOL:
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  Registrant:
  Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. (WATCHTOWER4-DOM)
  25 Columbia Heights
  Brooklyn, NY 11201-2483
  US

  Domain Name: WATCHTOWER.ORG

  Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
  Gott, Joel (JG5823) [email protected]
  Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of New York, Inc.
  25 Columbia Heights
  Brooklyn, NY 11201-2483
  (718) 560-5333 (FAX) (815) 346-2198

  Record last updated on 08-Mar-2001.
  Record expires on 15-Mar-2003.
  Record created on 14-Mar-1996.
  Database last updated on 7-Feb-2002 02:49:00 EST.

  Domain servers in listed order:

  NS1.SECURE.NET 192.41.1.10
  NS2.SECURE.NET 161.58.9.10
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  The IP address "63.92.157.81" probably belongs to a provider. Since it is a class A address, there are too many possible subnet & host configurations to isolate the ISP without getting a look at the mask they are using. Provide the mask, and we can determine the subnet and then find out who owns/leases the public address.
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  WARNING - THE WTBS CAN LOCATE YOU

  by Jim Dee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  guys and girls.

  the society have now instituted carnivore - their data tracking system installed into the uk bethel to track all apostate email and activity.

  the reason is the amount of "leaks" of confidential mail and facts.. they have tried and failed with legal blocking, so now they are plugging the leaks, these guys were brought into mill hill late last year after the leak of the june 1 letter.. their method is to use message boards and chat rooms for the "disaffected" and get them to go to other "society monitored" web sites.

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  Rhett:

  Good points. Nice meeting you!

  Now, back to the discussion:

  Also, even if the WTBS uses "packet filtering tools" what does that accomplish? Filters are primarily used for either blocking certain types of traffic and closing certain IP ports, or allowing /redirecting certain traffic to certain ports.

  A "packet" decoder/analyzer is what is necessary to "capture" live packets, and analyze the data contained within, such as protocls, source/destination addresses, service access points, sockets, hardware addresses, etc...

  Then, there are "remote management/desktop management/keystroke monitor" programs that create virtual sessions in stealth mode with remote clients like ZENWORKS 3. You can watch monitor screens and see everything and with some additional tools, use can record all of the I/O (keyboard/mouse input/output) that a user executes.

  And again, there is always the legal issues. The WTBS are extremely over rated in their authority and capabilities, and that is primarily due to typical JW profile demographics.
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  WARNING - THE WTBS CAN LOCATE YOU

  by Jim Dee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  guys and girls.

  the society have now instituted carnivore - their data tracking system installed into the uk bethel to track all apostate email and activity.

  the reason is the amount of "leaks" of confidential mail and facts.. they have tried and failed with legal blocking, so now they are plugging the leaks, these guys were brought into mill hill late last year after the leak of the june 1 letter.. their method is to use message boards and chat rooms for the "disaffected" and get them to go to other "society monitored" web sites.

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  AMAZING:

  There are numerous security and desktop management tools, like SNIFFER, PACKET SCRUBBER, IP-COP, etc. While the WTBS may have some actual qualified network and security engineers at Bethel, the results gained from "sniffing and snooping" are questionable.

  A crime has to be committed, and reasonable suspicion is necessary for a federal judge to allow "surveillance procedures". If the WTBS used surveillance tools across internet links, without prior consent and approval perhaps they would be in more trouble than the alleged apostate.

  Remember, packets can be traced in BOTH directions. ISP's use many of the same tools. People should exercise the necessary caution, and use common sense. Otherwise, surf from a cafe!
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  How do you feel about paying TAX?

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just had a shock today when i realised that i had just paid too much tax for last year.

  i had forgotten to add almost 1000 pounds expenses to my tax return.. oh yes i'm going to get some money back.but should i be so hasty, this money will go toward policing , education and many other important needs of society.. maybe it would just go to some corrupt official or politician who will spend it on a slap up meal.. so how do you feel about paying your taxes.

  are they too high or not high enought.. are there any better ways for keeping countries running smoothly.. also what taxes do you pay in other countries?.

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  All of you will probably have me "committed", but I absolutely LOVE completing the forms and filing my taxes.

  I have a very good (I think the IRS is sick of me) relationship with the local unit and I purchase all of the CD-ROM's with PDF fillable forms.

  I use Intuit Quickbooks Pro 2000 and Turbo Tax Deluxe. I think filing the forms is fun and I enjoy printing them out and making the labels and sending the completed return. I gotta tell all fo you how much fun it is to have your paperwork in order and organized.

  I have an office/office supplies fetish. I love to organize and file and catalog,etc. I love a clean office, you should see mine. I am on the tenth floor in my building in downtown Boston and I have a great view of the city (I do windows).
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  NUKES: THE ULTIMATE WEAPON OF TERROR

  by You Know in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  initially this post was a response to a question by a poster about the likelihood of an atomic weapon being detonated in the near future.

  in order to preserve this topic i have moved it to this forum.. __________________________________________________________________ .

  history is at a great turning point.

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  JoelBear:

  You are very insightful (as usual) and very humane. I agree. If the "source" of existence is a spirit, then the matter is spirit to spirit and nothing in between.